Groups like the PBS need to get their heads out of their *** and actually do something constructive for bowhunting for a change...
They HAVE done a lot ...... they just hate crossbows and want to keep their season "theirs"
BD, if anything you should know I'm consistent and stubborn. I'm still not going to get drawn into the compound part of this.
Dang ! C'mon man, play along here ! Lets hate compounds together !
I don't hate them, they're the most proficient bow in the woods BY FAR. They've brought in many many hunters to archery season. They're been the stepping stone of many into hunting, and towards trad archery too.
Hey wait a minute ....... THATS a crossbow isn't it ?
Actually it's called "primitive weapons" season (when muzzleloaders are allowed), and yes I can use a bow during that season.
EXCELLENT ! You lost nothing then, you can still hunt in that primitive season !
Actually I do see that as a potential problem/trend, but along the same lines as this thread, a modern muzzleloader, the inline, pelletizedc, sabot/bullet scoped things ......... they aren't primitive muzzleloader no more than a compound is a bow.
You keep forgetting the fellow from AR I had the discussion with. I would never purposely hunt the same area with someone like that for fear of moving at the wrong time/in the wrong place and getting shot by his "jump and shoot bow". That was his main argument for using a crossbow--because he could take a shot with it in a split second.
Good gawd, #1 you don't know he ever did that and #2 I'd bet there are MORE Accidents with people using compounds than crossbows. I think its been published that that is the case too. Probably the most compelling thing thouhg ...... he could get a handi-cap permit in MS and use a crossbow in your state this fall, gauranteed.
You going to quit hunting now ? Crossbows are ALREADY in your MS woods, you don't know the yahoo's behind them anymore than the guys behind the compounds - why do you hunt still ?
Walking around/sitting with it cocked/loaded for an indefinate amount of time, the ability to take a split-second shot, stock/forearm/trigger--those are aspects of a rifle and a crossbow, but not a bow, and very much separates them from a bow.
no, no, NO ! Crossbows are legal in almost every state and recognized as legal arhceyr tackle. Most states you have to have a permit to use them, BUT THEY ARE STILL LEGAL ARCHERY TACKLE ! Handcap people can only use BOWS in archery season, not gun, not muzzleloader, ONLY BOWS, and the rules and regs spell out exactly what bows are in every state.
There ARE a couple of states that don't allow crossbows in archery season. I can't remember which ones though
Those who wish for one season are liable to get what they wish for. Ok, let the crossbows into the archery season. Muzzleloader advocates can say "hey, you let them in--flintlocks are basically the same as crossbows--primitive, low impact, one shot, close range.......we want in too!!!" and on and on and on--on top of the obvious fact that I've mentioned over and over--open the gates, the tech race is on, and no telling what they (crossbows)will be capable of in the next 10 years.
Is it that hard for us to see past our noses? Are we too stupid to look at where compounds have gone in the last 10 years?
Well first tell me where compounds have gone ? Have they brought in SO many archery hunters that we've lost season ? No, thats not it. We've lost much of the archery seasons becuase of compounds ? Bag limits ? No ..... not that I'm aware of. So what HAS the compounds done ?
The tech race is ALREADY on LBR because of the states that allow crossbows. You don't think it has ? Look at the next Cabelas and Bass Pro. 1/3 crossbows now - why ?
Like I told BD, I also have the legal option or riding a little motor scooter in 8-lane Interstate traffic too. Right now I have archery season--the equivelent of having a safe lane for just the guys riding scooters.
Would you rahter NOT have the option of hunting in those other seasons ? Some states don't allow it
My main argument is a crossbow isn't a bow--
Your state of MS says it is
New- To me its all 100% about the bow hunting heritage! It may not bother you but damn it bothers me! Its got nothing to do with more hunter#'s with me. Its never been a part of bow hunting in the USA, why does it have to be now? I respect your opinions New, Wyvern, I really do! I guess I'm more conservative then you guys and I don't ever see myself changing my ways on bow hunting the (new way).
I completely understand that view and lean towards it heavily at times myself.
Crossbow and compound bowhunting isn't bowhunting, NOT like trad hunting is bowhunting. Its as differnt as night and day.
Wyvern Crossbow you waited to post that picture didn't you ?
NEW61375 Is that a Martin recurve ? I can't tell. What setup do you shoot ?