I'm strictly talking spring birds, not fall birds and I guess I can be more specific and say PA birds, they are a different critter...LOL

Even Fall, I've been busted by PA turkeys in the treestand 10 fold to when I've been on the ground. I've only successfully drawn my bow once in probably a dozen attempts on birds when in a treestand. Most of the time, they bust ya before you even get your bow in hand.

Also, in the spring we're most likely calling, they are looking for that source and coming in looking.