A buddy of mine had been using Montecs but he said he kept losing deer. Now maybe he was not having good shot placement but he blamed it on bad penetration. He shot a good buck and there wasen't much of a bloodtrail and he lost the deer. But from what i've seen he is a pretty good shot, but of course that could change when a live deer is in front of him. So i'm not so sure about the Montecs.