lol thanx whoelse..i definently knew that...i wasnt buying him hevishot too! lol...i was going to switch because he is going to shot the big boys this year i think...i duno either way 25 shells will last me a good number of years....and thats always my theory about not fixing it until its broken...really if my patterns got any tighter id have to scope it because it would be such a great pattern...i got really lucky...my shells were the first i tried and man..if they can be beat without spending major bucks it would be a heck of a pattern!! thanx...i think i will stick with lead...why spend the money on hevishot and who knows what it will do in my gun....