ORIGINAL: salukipv1
haha, I love how everyone hates expensive ammo? I understand if you're shooting ALOT of ammo! but cmon I dont shoot ALOT of ammo, how many boxes per caliber are you guys shooting a year? If you really like a certain cartridge I say buy it, if a box of ammo is 20 bucks more a box, and you shoot 1 box a year, who cares? less youre at the range each weekend shooting a box, I really dont see ammo cost being an issue. But im sure some guys shoot a ton of ammo, but then again, theyre probably reloading so who cares? and then again theyre prob not shooting 200rounds a weekend of 300 win mag etc....its .223 etc...so again who cares.
The 7mm mag just never was my gun, from what ive read to is if you handload a 270 you can basically get it to do everything a 7mm will do. same with the 30-06 that handloaders can get it close to a .300 win mag, esp with 200gr bullets. My thing with the 7mm mag, is that it will shoot 175gr but really thats a big round for that case, I think 160 or 165 is the heavy load, and i dont want to shoot an elk with a 7mm mag at 500yds with a 160gr bullet, so if you compare....7mm with 160's vs 300 win mag with 180, personally I want the 300 win mag. I kinda feel like a magnum begins with the 300 win mag. anythign less, why? get a .270 if you want something flat shooting. Also 26" barrel on a 7mm mag to shot 160grs flatter or 140grs flat...
my view is a 270 for the non magnum stuff, or an '06 if you prefer.
Of what he said, id say any would be to consider, just not the 7mm mag, but since he said hogs and wanted something a tad heavier i said '06 or 300 mag. 270 seemed light, though im sure they make grea tbullets for it that would ge tethe job done. 7mm overrated, but the 06 and 300 mag both solid.
sounds like youspeak from internet vs actual experience. I'm a reloader, have owned all of the cartridges you mentionand many others. I actually have used them as well
. .308 calibersis great but the .284's are as well. I like the .284 because it's flat shooting, excellent BC and SD that make it a great match for my situation be it an elk or an antelope at 500 yards if I feel comfortable in the shoot presented I'd pull the trigger without skipping a beat.
In regards to the 300wm I think it is truly at its best with 200gr bullets (when talking advantages), the fact the mass use 180< sell it a little short IMHO. It is also whyI really don't care for the 300wsm...however it fits the proto typical usage probably better! The 06 doesn't come close to the 300 with any bullets, especially the heavier for cal - 200 +. Doesn't have the case capacity to be truly effecient like the wm. One reason I like the 7mm rem mag is it has case room to support the bullet class, as an all arounder the Rem mag shows its worth with 160 - 175 gr bullets.Other .284'slike the STW, RUM and other wildcats also shine due to case room...but they require handloading.
Speaking of handloads you can make a rem mag haul as well. I can get 3000fps out of heavier for class bullets. My elk/moose load is actually a 140gr Barnes TSX that leaves the muzzle at over 3300fps. I could get more but with sub moa groups...why?? It has dropped 3 bull elk and 2 bull moose with authority. I have only recovered one bullet on bull moose where i busted him through both shoulder at maybe 50 yards. I received full penetration the hide on the opposite side held the slug from leaving, the moose fell in a heap. I have been on a number of bull moose kills and this kind of performance is all one can ever ask for...regardless of the cartridge.
Barrel length has nothing more to do with the rem mag as it does with a win mag!
Your opinion is the rem mag is overratted and mine is the 06' is as well. I have actually used both to come to this conclusion. How about you???