I find NO shame in a good ambush. point is, i have hunted birds several times that would absolutly not come in, i hunted a pair for a week and decided to go silet and set up an ambush on the field and wait them out if it took all day, it worked on one of my best birds ever, and on a few since, i look at it as stepping outside of the box and making something happen BUT it still dont compare to a bird hollering his head off belting out tuco bites, tuco bites [8D]if you think about it, hunting deer is really an ambush in a way