I have a Martin Dreamcast that I like to shoot from time to time. I bought it a long time ago to prove I could shoot Vertical. I did not do it. I have never hunted with it since I lack the confidence in it. When I shoot at twenty yards I put nine arrows in a four inch circle most of the time, but then I get one flier sometimes, like off by ten inches! So I never took it out figured being in a tree with camo on would only make it worse. I have had a itch to by a fifty pound PSE Coyote and start to play with it. Figured with a different rest like a modern one I could do better, but it is just a back burner idea.