How long range do you need/want to go? I bet the mz expander will stay under 4" at 200. The spitfire is a narrow hp boat tail, looks like a match bullet. Should shoot very well farther out, haven't tried it. Sabot fit will be the key to those, if the supplied sabots dont suit you, you are screwed. Then there are the 45/70 bullets. The heavier bullets will do alot better farther out, I have no clue why everyone jumped on the light bullet bandwagon. The heavy bullets dont needas muchwindageas the 250g bullets, and they carry alot more energy downrange.