johnny2.. your a smart fellow. I'd much rather wait in a truck then run up and down steep hills all day. That's for them young people.

But since they are that age, then the Knight would be a good choice, as it will last forever and their kids can use it as well. Also the great customer support. Although Thompson Center is nothing to sneeze at. The problem is there are so many choices. Just make sure the rifles you get them. do not shoot as good as your own.. We would not want them outshooting you now....