I have one. Absolutely love it. Not many loads group over 1 1/2". A few of my favorite loads group under 1". Its not "stock", its been bedded and had a third pillar added. I wish I would have saved that money, because it shot that good before I had the work done. Here is a report from my last range session. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2661725 Not my best groups ever, but prettycloseto what I get on average. Also if your seriously thinking about one join here http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage. Its by far the best board for these ML's. These guns are picky about what combo they like, so plan on lots of range time. If you are willing to put in the work, there is no better muzzleloader, atleast for the money.