Alpha Capo machines don't shoot bows, people do. Compounds are much more accurate, thats why bowhunters for the most part use them. If you're belief in quick shooting were accurate, everyone would be using recurves. They don't, because the ability to draw and hold heavy poundage bows that are super accurate and easy to shoot far outweighs being able to snap shoot.
on crossbows let me say this - its funny how compounders will defend ALL DAY LONG that bowhunters should unite, embrace all bows for hunting, shoot whatever you want etc because that will make traditiaonalists accept the compounds. Then add crossbows into the equation and they foam at the mouth and a fight starts !
compounders want their high technology, the trigger releases, the high FPS, the fancy sights, they want as much techy stuff as they can load onto their bows to make their shooting EASIER - and they want their choices accepted by everyone too - but make it a BIT EASIER with a crossbow ? foaming at the mouth again
Are cane pole fisherman better than those who use the trusty zebco 33
there is a much greater challenge there, YES !
Big D, by your definition, a compound shooter who uses no sights and shoots fingers is a trad shooter, correct? Is that how you distinguish the two types of hunting, no sights and shooting fingers?
compounds are not designed to use bare bow anymore. but no, the letoff itsself and the essentrics of the mechanics also seperate what a compound is. Its the wheels, and the breach of "drawing in the presence of game" that seperates. With a compound, you don't draw in the presence, you draw before, hold, and wait. Terribly different stuff.
Crossbows arent bowhunting, just as gun hunting isn't. They are their own type of hunting.
TEmbry funny, thats exactly what I'm saying too, except I lump your choice of bows into the same category as crossbows.
You see, you're an elitist too. You think crossbows breaches what it and isn't archery, though truth is crossbows have been around for centuries and compounds only about 40 years. You just draw the line in one spot, me in another.
Dnk
It is truly amazing it took this long for this kind of discussion to come about and it says alot of good things about members here.
Its something I like to discuss because it impacts our entire sport.
Do we (A) include everything or (B) draw lines in the sand ? We do (B) and WHERE those lines are is up for discussion.
And those lines change, every year.
I bet a lot of guys don't know that mechnaical releases were not allowed for decades. I bet most guys don't remember >65% letoff being illegal. I bet a lot of bowhunters don't remember mechanical heads being illegal.
Things change, and I don't remember the fights in the 60's and 70's between traditionalists and the insurgence of compounds.
Does it really matter what people use hunt with a bow and arrow? Isn't the whole idea behind this type of hunting to get out into the woods and enjoy it?
Wiaxle I think it matters, yes, more and more. I think the hunting gets lost, and the killing becomes the focus and the equipment used accelerates that conversion.
Are you going to make it so that if a young person wants to get out and try archery, if they are not using a traditional type of bow they are not following the spirit of the sport? Isn't it more important to get folks out there in the woods regardless of their choice of weapon?
more and more yes, if you want to become a bowhunter, use a recurve. if you want instance satisfaction with little dedication, practice and sense of archery, shoot a compound of crossbow. They are the shortcut to archery, the easy way to bowhunting.
I don't know anymore than giving all these shortcuts isn't the root cause of a lot of hunting's problems.
You find more enjoyment hunting with a longbow, more power to you, but don't presume to lessen the way other people draw enjoyment from the sport.
if I said the same thing and included crossbows, what say you ?
I have nothing against them at all I just don't relate them to archery.
congrats
Matt / PAfor joining me in our elitist attitudes ! WELCOME !
we only differ now in where the lines need drawn. right ?
By your argument of wanting to use the most efficienct tool possible for hunting .....................
look at where compounds have come, and all the technology with them. Every year rules are rewritten to allow more and more and more ...... when will it end ? At 65% letoff ? No. At mechanical releases ? No. At fibger optic sights ? No. When will it end ?
Look at this photo - check that bow out. Why didn't "we" as a hunting/bowhunting/archery community stop the advancement of technolgoy THERE ?
Matt / PA do you think you can outshoot that compound with your recurve ? 10 shots, 40 yards, what do you think the outcome would be ? What about a new Bowtech all decked out vs that compound - at 80 yards ? Results of a side by side ?
My point is, technology won't stop. The fights that split the P&Y club 35 years ago are still happening today. Why ? Technology, thats the root cause.