Thanks everyone for your imput. I' m leaning towards the penteax dcf 8x42 but I' m having a hard time finding a local dealer that have them in stock so I can do a comparision between them and other 8x42 of the same quality. I' m probably going to Pro Bass in Balt. to make my final testing.

Texdarton, I' ve never seen those classes anywhere. Do they compare to the Pentax with phase coating and fully coated lenes? What is the web site? Thanks.
JERRY