I like BTK a lot and it set the stage for the recipe of what White Knuckle uses to make great videos, but I don't think it is fair to compare the two. I see the Grind as the next stage in a progression for these guys. It's kind of like trying to compare the pages of a book. Yes, they are part of the same book, but with their own parts leading to the conclusion. BTK is the beginning and the Grind is the next step. As a good next step should, it leaves me wanting to see the next installment. As long as WKP keeps progressing like this I'll keep buying videos.