I missed a buck twice! First shot was just over his back and he ran away about 20 yards or so. I hit the grunt tube and brought him back into bow range and I put my second shot over his back again. He didn' t stick around after the second shot but he didn' t run off too far, only about 100 yards on top of a ridge. After waiting and watching him for 15 or 20 minutes I tried the rattle horns. He came bolting down the hill and stopped right under my stand! I took him at 15 yards He was my third deer I took with the bow.