Sabotloader,
I would love to try some before I order a couple hundred and find out if they work or not. I would also be interested in what peep Cdad is using and what he thinks about it. The stock on mine is the gray laminated and it is in very good condition.

One other thing for you Umag shooters. Tenmilephenom didn't have a manual for it, does anyone know if there are manuals available, either printed or online? Also, what extra parts should I talk to Doc about getting, just in case? Anyone using the 209 setup on their Umag? How do you like it? Thanks for any help you can provide.