ORIGINAL: Pavomesa
I'll say it again, my friends. A LOT of any effect has to do with BULLET PERFORMANCE and the frame of mind of the animal in question....not just whatever numbers we want to toss around. There is a whole list of things that need to click for any of this work. We cannot answer this question with formulas. Probably all of us have witnessed glaring exceptions to both sides of the argument.
I've never had deer do anything but flop when I hit them in the right spot. Doesn't matter whether it was with a .17, 204, 7-08 or what. Bang, flop. I think bullet performance has almost little or nothing to do with it. As long as the bullet gets to where it was intended it has performed. I don't care about how much it expands or whatever. As long as it gets there, it performed. You asked about shock... you got an answer... sorry you didn't like it.