Dont really know too much about the Reflex's but there are tons of really good deals out there. I just bought an 07 Diamond Black Ice new in box for 479 dollars shipped. Check out the classified section over at www.archerytalk.com i would much rather buy a left over new in box bow than a used one but thats up to you, the black ice was going for 699 when it first came out. There were a bunch of close outs on Bowtechs and Diamonds which doesnt mean that they werent selling there are just alot more of em around.