I shot my first 3-D shoot in 13+ years last weekend with GMMAT. Hunter class, 30 yard max, 20 targets, I shot a 185 if Jeff done the math rightj/k. What hampered me most was not knowing the targets that well. I'm using excellent binos, but on some targets I still couldn't tell where the 12 was (not that it would have helped) but I would have felt more comfortable knowing exactly where to aim. I'm doing it totally for fun, exact same setup as what I hunt with, so I don't consider my 185tobad. If Ikeep it up through outthe summer I hope to avg. in the 195-200 range.