Gentlemen we must hang together now ,for if we do not we will surely hang seperately , Ben Franklin .
The point I believe is one of that the sponcer is protecting an intrest in fact a market segment . Seems to me if your going to use a front stuffer then a rifle that will out proform a 458 Lott/Win mag and roll an elk at 300yrds isn't what you wanted to shoot . My 50 hawkens (by the book) is equal to the 30-06' at the muzzle wt for wt. IF I choose to use a conical instead of a patched ball ,well what do you get wt a 28" bbl 275 gr 45 cal hp over 100 gr of pyro ? I think we all agree that we just don't say what we heard us say.