Alex, Thanks to you Jimmy called me last night. In fact I was in Snuffy's car with Cliff, KBI-Prez coming home from a shoot in over in Indiana. So I Got two of my reels mailed out this morning. He said that he could get them back in a week to 10 days. So I should have them in time to wack some fish. I still have two Rino 5's just in case. The guys are waiting to see the difference before sending in their. I have always been a gunea pig. But then I had your recommendation so i'm pretty confident. Thanks. See ya Saturday.