I watched "beyond the Kill" last year and didnt see a reason to purchase "The Grind" this year, if its as great as you say Im bound to see it at somewhere.I commented on the first video last year and had my post deleted, noticed a post on another sight a little whil ago andsaw some similar comments.I watched some of the footage at the Lansing show and noticed some focus issues, zooming in and out and wided out most of the time, but it was just a couple min. so I wont judge the whole thing on that, it may be your technique or style I dont know,but the comment above about flawless footage is a tad off. No doubt you guys will continue to get better every year, thats kind of the point but to proclaim yourselves pros or experts may be a little premature you think. I am by no means a pro or an expert this is just what I see. I actually thought the Slunger Hollow footage was very good, but didnt buy their video either.