Don't go there. If you get a grinder you will start to make sausage, the next thing you know you have a grinder,stuffer, smoker and are eating a variety of smoked and cured meats and sausages, salami, kielbasa, pepperoni, snack stix, andouli, brats, calebrese, pastrami, canadian bacon and a whole lot more. Its a slippery slope and it all starts with a grinder