I went and shot outdoors today and shot too long,fatigue started to get the best of me after about 200 arrows through 2 bows.I couldn't find the arrows I wanted Fiday so salesman talked me into some Gold Tips (too light for me) but near the end of my shooting and starting to push my groups right I attempted to put a new G/T into the angle iron frame I built for my bag target! It makes a horrible noise...sorta like $8 going up in smoke! Lesson learned...any sign of fatigue and groups slipping...STOP for the day! Hey Ausie-Guy better find me some ICS 400 shafts for my trip up there next month.I told the salesman I wanted close to 8.4 gpi and these ultra lights just aren't what I'm used to at 7.2!