i to hunt public land, but i dont out of treestands. i hunt out of natural ground blinds and do a little stalking. i was looking to get a double bull to but dont wont tobuy it then get busted everytime also. it weight 20lbs. if you want to learn how to hunt on the ground this book is a must read:http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0014761613575a&navCount=1&podI d=0014761613575&parentId=cat601668&masterp athid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat2142 4-cat601668&catalogCode=QW&rid=&parentTy pe=index&indexId=cat601668&hasJS=true
i read it about 3 times a year, its great.