Ant, believe me I know they don't all get hit, it's just convincing my buddy that's the problem. Like I said I think he uses it as justification to shoot bucks that he's afraid we might razz him on. We'd never do that, we just find something else to bust his stones about.

That's cool how that lady gave you permission. Sometimes that's all it takes is just tallking to someone and letting them get to know you. I've asked permission at places and got a no and stuck around a little while to shoot the bull and after getting to know me they've changed their minds. It doesn't happen all the time, but it can happen.