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Old 02-15-2008 | 06:09 PM
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the_sandman_454
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Default RE: Open Carry?

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I think, if you have to be in a place where carry is not legal, then they should provide you protection. If they don't they should be held accountable and should be open to a law suit.

I think that is certainly a fair statement.

I guess it is just hard for me to say to myself, the answer to having no guns in schools is to have guns in schools... so to speak. Hard not to call myself crazy for agreeing with that.

I also concur with you Lucky that it doesn't matter what that gun mans' deal was, when you take the life of another, you have no excuse, and you have no right, you just need to be stopped.

I'm not entirely sure what the answer is. A lot of it in my opinion is the abscense of the value of human life from our accepted society. I agree and understand with the first amendment, but I think that it has in certain ways totally underminded what it was intended to do. Television, movies, video games, and a severe lack of respect, abscense of parental control, and an abscense of God in someones life can lead to some very tragic ends.
The problem is prohibition. The onlypeople affected byprohibiting or banning the posession or use of something are honest people who obey the law. The others are criminals, by definition.

Unless you do make alluniversities have mandatory metal detectors and armed guards, this crap will continue to happen with increasing regularity if concealed carry is prohibited in colleges and/or universities. One solution equals a large extra cost, and one is essentially free, nearly as effective, and virtually no more dangerous.

Keep in mind these same "punk kids" that you don't want carrying in college, are legally carrying at the mall, stores, virtually anyplace in public. How are they responsible enough to carry there but not in the classroom? Why should we say "sure, defend yourself anywhere else, but not here."?

Let me ask you this, SC: Do you support any members of the public carrying arms on our person for defense of self? Before you answer this, I want you to forget all about the location it is.

I think you may be buying into the emotional argument against guns when the subject of schools come up. Schools really aren't any different than anywhere else. There is no reason for people in schools to have their right to self defense revoked. The only problem with schools I can think of is posessing in dorms due to how many people are in and out of there who may gain unauthorized use of the weapon. If that problem is overcome, then I see no reason to ban guns in certain places.

Bad people can exist anywhere, at any time. Why would you want to help them kill people? By banning law abiding citizens from carrying weapons, you are helping these psychos kill more people. Instead of leading students to the slaughter like cattle, why not allow them the option of preventing that?

Edited to add the following:

The fact that there are so many people without a moral compass, who don't value human life essentially helps make my argument for me. Who will protect people from people like these? The police can't, there aren't enough police to have an individual officer assigned to everybody. Even if there were, I wouldn't want to live that way. No, the way to solve this problem is for every single adult to step up and take responsibility for our own safety. This requires the ability to go about armed, although it's not the only thing that can be done, it's another tool in your toolbox, so to speak.
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