We could go back and forth all day on the subject, Obviously SOME still hunters see it your way.... for the rest we see it the right way(for hunters who are hunting legally and respectfully of other hunters.) If you dont turn out on his land, have no intention of the deer getting by you and your dogs going on his land running after the deer, and if you try and call to ask perm. to get your dogs off the guys land than you are doing nothing wrong!! Just dealing with a few jerks is all!!