Purep, you might want to rethink what hunting means to you,if it is killing a bird or actually getting one,Safeway is cheaper. Trust me I know how you feel,up here in WA.St. the eastern' s are few and very hard to find in the thick brush we have. It took me 3yrs to finally see a hen, and 5yrs to finally take a 11lb Jake.So if you like it stick w/it and stay positive(thats a major factor) and if not ,well its not for everyone.