these are very old pics I was the only one to see these 2 dandys the opening day of bow season out of range the bigger one is a 13/14pointer looks to be around 18 or so wide the other is a high racked 8 with split brow these pics were from back in 02/03 never did find anything out on these to sure woulda loved to have them on my wall the 8 with split brow we have over 100pics of this guy