hey yodeldog3 it sounds like you have had them suprise you a time or two also,it makes my heart beat faster than a big buck, when they come from the tree or bush beside you and are spitting distance in two seconds and gone or dead in two more,nothing else in the hunting world is as exciting to me,I would like to see the look on these guys faces when one does the old fly by,and you probably couldn't have hit him with a shotgun muchless a rifle,I'll bet they will be scratching their heads wondering how the heck you kill one at a 100mph,they are definitaly in for some excitement being newcomers to the sport.