I guess Ill open myself up to an argument here!, I dont think the Vanguard is worth a hill of beans!, they are in fact one of the worst choices out there for accuracy. The ammount of freebore in the chamber makes them bad enough to were makeing custom ammo cant make them shoot much better!. If your wanting a hunting rifle, you would be better off to get a Remington, Sako, CZ or even a Savage, they will outshoot the Weatherby!. Also, if you ever want an AR15, or any other kind of so called evil rifle, I would get it befor the elections, if the dems get in or I beleive McCain also, they will work another even harsher than the 94 ban through very quickly!. From what I understand, the brady-bunch are trying to outlaw the compleete rifle now, along with most other semi-autos, yes includeing your hunting rifles!, Im not going to even start on the handguns!, I hate to see whats going to come about after Jan 09.