salukipv1,I once started a thread called "Caliber of the week" Hoping to enlighten people that did not know that much about the various rounds could learn .It started out O.K. but then I got a reprimand for not being "Politically correct" about my terminology rounds ,caliber all of that mess So I stopped it .You know I thought it would be fun and maybe some people would like it .Guess I was wrong If I can ever help out the inquiring mind please feel free to E- Mail me and I will try to share my limited knowledge with you .I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I ain't no idiot either.