yea, I remember seasons where there were so many deer, and you could tell it was overpopultated....I saw less deer in the entire first week this year, then I saw opening day the first year I hunted. and I only saw one shooter buck and I let my cousin take him because I had alreadyshot an nice 8 point with my bow in ohio, turned out that buck was a really nice 7 pointer. and I htink he is getting it mouted. ..... We hunt farms in our area, posted property is a huge problem, but because my family all grew up there, we have permission to hunt most everything in the area.