You can check these 2 reviews out for them. They're not going to help much as one is a good review and one is a not so good review. Bad thing about reviews is you never really know who posted them for sure. Click the link. http://www.huntinfo.com/reviews/outfitter_reviews.php3?outfitter_search=Grand+rive r+Outfitters&state_filter=&submit_action=G o