RE: 410. for quail?
there is truth to all that cahansen, but I would do it the other way around. Start with the 20, then move to the .410 later. It can be discouraging for somebody not used to hunting and shooting to use a .410 and not be as successful with it. Like we have both stated, oyu can kill with it, but the 20 would be a better choice for a new BIRD hunter. The .410 is a great starter gun for tree rats and bunnies though.