I refered to situations in my post of who I was talking about. I see you live in central IL but I dont think you are the individual/individuals that I was dealing with. So no I was not refering to You/and whoever we is! I got all fired up and should have made my post more clear. Ihave not had a problem with outfitters moving in and causing me problems. In the past I have had problems with people trying to run me off my leased and owned property. I have had people sneak in and hunt where they are not welcomed because they think they have a right to be there when they don't. All in all I have had more trouble with local numbskulls than outfitters.