Thanks for the info guys. These are the round pellets and not the sticks they came out with to avoid patent infringement. I mainly want them for hunting so I think I'll stick with my Black Mag3 loose powder while it lasts or with a couple of old boxes of Pyrodex pellets that I still have. He also has some powder in a white metal can, Goex maybe?He only wants five bucks a can for that, too.