Roskoe, I shot Hoyt for 10 plus years. I agree, I was very much liking the Hoyt grip. When I bought my Alli in 06, it was close but I feel the 08 line really feels like the Hoyts I was used to. Now when I go back to my Alli, it feels bigger. I love it as I've used it two seasons but I really like the feel of the General and Airborne. The Marquis feels that way too.