I believe you have mistaken what I said, therefore you are not straight. I will hopefully someday buy ground, to hunt, but will let others hunt there as long as I am hunting on other landowners.
Unless I am mistaken, when you have land, you will let others hunt as long as you get something in return. Kinda sounds like whats happpening now. Just because money doesnt change hands doesntmean your land doesnt have a price.You just said so.
Tell me BT, have you ever lost hunting ground to an outfitter? No, because according to your sig, you are the problem.
First of all, you assume too much. I too have lost hunting ground to outfitters and or clubs. It's one of the reasons I took the bull by the horns and got involved. No I don't make a money profit at it, but I do get to hunt at no cost. That is my profit and I won'tever apologize for it.It's all a matter of what you are willing to do to enjoy your sport.
As far as something for nothing, you have no idea what I do for the landowners that I hunt on, so you can pretty much quit your preaching. I've helped them cut firewood off of their ground, I've helped bale hay, we've even spent $200 dollars and a bunch of time fixing one of the landowners trucks. And I don't do this because they let me hunt, I do it because first of all I like the guys, and second of all, I feel I do owe it to them to help them out, because they help me out by letting me hunt.
You say you did things for your landowner...well it obviously wasn't enough. If your boss cut some firewood for you and maybe fixed your truck, should he be able to pay you less ? maybe he ought to be able to pay you less cause he likes you? The farmer is simply making a living with his land.The outfitter is part of it too but if there wasn't a market for it, neither would get any money. Your anger is misdirected. If the demand wasnt there, outfitting wouldnt exist. Outfitters didnt create the demand.BTW, Most situations I've seen with Illinois landowners is that they give the folks who presently huntfirst chance to match any offers they get.
Tell me, do you see a problem with in the future outfitters controlling hypothetically 90% of the property.
You obviously missed my point. I would rather see everyone being able to hunt where they want for free but thats not the real world any more. When the real world changes, you can change with it or you can get left behind. I dont like it either, but it's the cards we've beendealt.
Do you see a problem with average joe hunters having to pay thousands of dollars to hunt a deer. It is a "free market" as is said. Well, if that is what hunting is going to come to, an outdoor Wal-Mart, then I will be happy to bow out of the sport. Until then I'll keep speaking out against you guys pimping out wildlife and the sport of hunting.
The average Joe doesnt have to pay thousands to hunt a deer. There are many places where anyone can deer hunt for free but the deer may not be a big or as plentiful as in most of Illinois. You live in prime deer country and expect those of us who don't to feel sorry for you because you may have to pay like the rest of us do.
Have you ever hunted anywhere but for something you cant hunt at home? If you never have and never will go somewhere other than home, you have the right not to like whats going. But your rights stop there. If, on the other hand, you have or will someday, go out of your area to hunt andare willing pay for the privelege then you are simply a jealous NIMBY ( stands for: Not In My Back Yard) and a hypocrite.