Did anyone read the WON article where they were talking about the population and the 15 factors involved with figuring the Buck Recovery Rate ? The one main factor, not even mentioned, is the buck fawn harvest. We all know it' s gone way up with tzone and EAB. The other pile came from Hauge- Now, we KNOW that bucks die twice as fast as does. We' ve heard this from Mytton and others. It' s a crock. They should look at their own numbers over the last 10 years. We' ve been killing closer to 1:1 than 2:1. When the SAK came about, we were killing about 4 bucks per doe, and registering each deer for what it was. It' s time for an oil change, and a new filter.