I am only 14 and have not gotten a deer yet, this coming year will be my second. I just thought I' d share this thought with you. I go hunting in Ohio with my uncle every year now and they have some big bucks. We did a drive and not 5 minutes after we got there one of the members dropped an 8 point. My uncles friend took a 21 point with his bow. No lie. I have seen pictures. I don' t know if anyone cares but I thought I' d let you know. Bye.