Where are you going? I went to Quebec once and had a blast. 12 guys shot 12 Bulls. Wish I would have taken my Bow. Both Bulls I shot we're less than 30 yds. Like said the size of their racks are decieving, I shot two average Bulls. I went around Sept 7th. most all the Bulls were in velvet, the bigger bulls were starting to loose theirs. The Shovels should be as long as their noise is one way to judge the size. Do a serch online, there are many sites to tell how to judge the rack size of Caribou. Good Luck