bawanajim, im not sure what is going on with that one, freaky for sure. A guy brought in a rack today at work from an Ill thathe had killed, the rack was only about 8" tall, had brows,it did not have points but both sides were formed like giant clubs about 8-9" in diam. the bases were the size of a 3.5- 4.5 y/obuck it was prob about a 10" IS, it was hard to tell because the dummy had hack sawed them off instead of a skull cap or euro [&:]no way i would have done that, to much character, i love oddities.