Thanks Guy' s You have been helpfull. Ballistictip I' m imprest with what you have done with that disc. I found a nice setup from a company called " King Kutter" , It' s a double row of 6 discs, with adjustablke hight wheels, about 250lbs., for $375.00. The Rubicon should pull it Ok. Wife says I must also put in a garden for her and the kids. Must justify these toys some how.