dmurphy317, thats true,but the difference to me is in design the 250gr like XTP and Gold Dot are designed to open fast for light animals like deer sized and the 300gr especally the Gold Dot and SW are designed to open slowly and penatrate deep like for a moose or buffalo. I have not had any penatration problems I shoot through the boiler room as some people like to term it and not the shoulder. If I tended to shoot the shoulder I would use 300gr for deer to. Lee