Well, I bought a couple of boxes of the HD's yesterday at Bass Pro and tested them out today.They were $20.99 per box of 5. I tested out the 3 1/2 inch in 6 shot. I normally shoot 5 shot in Rem. hevi shot mags, but the HD's come in 4 and 6 shot. I only shot two times today, at 30 and 40 yards. I was shooting free hand sitting at the base of a tree. I like to pattern a shell the way I am going to when I shoot a turkey. At 30 yards I put 112 pellets in an 8 inch circle. That equals a very dead turkey. At 40 yards I put 97 pellets in an 8 inch circle. That also equals a very dead turkey. I was shooting a Rem. 870 SPS-T thumbhole with a jellyhead choke. I was pleased with both patterns.