My 23 year old son finall got hisfirst deerandalso thsfirst deer we have ever taken with a muzzleloader. Taken on a doe management hunt.Shot was a neck shot at 114 yards and he was shacking so bad I thought he was going to miss (this was the first shot he has ever goten to take at deer). He was not amiming for neck but his mother and I both asked God to let him get a deer and he guided the bullet perfectly. She dropped like a rock right there. Also his old Dad got his first muzzleloader on this hunt also but not near as exciting as his!!