I don't know. I'll play with it, Brian will be back up sometime too. I just don't know.

Thanks guys, I'll see what I can come up with.

Unless Brian was really pulling against it, I can't think of anything more. I'll try it with some other guys when they are up as well. Tis interesting.

I'm not making excuses as I'm really baffled but it seems like we covered everything that is offered up except the elbow that AP suggested.