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Old 01-19-2008 | 07:44 AM
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Default RE: Elite GTO, should NOT be overlooked...

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Hoyt limbs have been tested a 1000 times over the barnsdale so saying the bd's are the standard is an overstatement at best,plus the weakest part of a limb is the v and that has been eliminated with the hoyts but still there on the Barnsdales.,I am not badmouthing the Barnsdales but they are no better than Hoyt's,really not possible imo.
I was going to say the same thing as well, I just didn't want to waste the time to type this to Fran since he's already got it figured out and all. Both make a fine limb but to say one is better than the other is pure fanboy ignorance and regurgitation of what's been read and heard elsewhere.

And from what I heard, the change from WC didn't have to do pricing, it had a bit more to do with major manufacturing flaws at Elite that were cutting end loops on the string/cables causing bows to come apart on people at full draw, and Elite passing the buck onto WC when the issue was really with the cams. Funny thing is thatElite at least acknowledged the problem enough to fix the problem after production started by using a dremel tool at the factory to modify cams, and then finishing out their production run with these dremel tool modified cams. For a period of time after WC stopped providing strings for Elite, Elite was still claiming they were using WC strings, and as a matter of fact the CEO of Winners Choice had to make a public statment to clear this up for people so that people understood he was no longer supplying strings to them.He didn't want to be associated with them for some reason anymore. The bows continued to fail after Winners Choice stopped supplying them.

Any company that doesn't have the overhead to put in the kind of R&D and QA into place to make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen is never going to be "cream of the crop". Just MHO, butIt's worth another hundred $ more to get basically the same bow with a much higher level of QA behind it for me, and I have a problem with recommending them to anyone else for this reason, not to mention their business ethics.

They weren't at the ATA because they really can't take on more dealers and must be at production capacity............I wonder what that means in terms of turnaround time should an existing customer have a problem with something? [&:] If they can't keep up with paying new orders on bows, where on the priority list is problems with something already paid for going to fall?

I have a personal friend that bought 2x identical E500's, both of them ended up with the string/cable end loops being cut by the cam, one of which let go on him at full draw. Rather than sucking it up and re-engineering the cam to eliminate the issue,Elite useda dremel tool to modify it, then send it back for us to install claiming they fixed the problem. I've seen the bows first hand, worked on them for him, and saw the cam as well. Pretty sad indeed.

Take everything I've said for what it's worth. Again, I don't have a horse in this race as I'm not associated with any bow company at all at the time, just things that a lot here don't seem to be aware of.

Just a bit more food for thought..............


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