I have shot severfal different loads over the years I have hunted with these guns. Both of them shoot about 6" high at 30 yards. I shoot a kicks gobblin thunder choke. I also have a friend that has one as well and his shoots the same, 6" high. One of the novas has a 24" barrel and the other a 28". I have put a set of adjustable fiber optic sights, but the rear sightstill will not come down low enough. I really don't like aiming low, too much guess work for me. These turkeys around here are hard to hunt and I do not want to guess at anything. Thanks for the advice.